[OSM-Berlin] keys Berlin "verschmutzen" OSM-DE-Daten wohl seit 2018

[Tobias Conradi]

On Mon, Sep 1, 2025 at 1:37 PM Frederik Ramm via Berlin
<berlin at lists.openstreetmap.de> wrote:
>
> Hallo,
>
> eventuell ist https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/8131479 die
> Schuldige. Bin nicht ganz sicher, warum die in den Berlin-Daten mit drin
> ist, das müsste ich mal untersuchen.
>
> Bye
> Frederik

Danke, das hilft sehr gut weiter. Es sind somit wohl alle Daten in
Deutschland betroffen.

"Contains possibly problematic characters" ergibt, wie schon
dargestellt, 114 Treffer für Berlin und, wie noch nicht dargestellt,
116 für Brandenburg. Liste je Bundesland unten.

Die oben genannte Relation enthält 125 Tags, davon beginnen 115 mit
"def:", komplette Liste unten.

Unter https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tags ist keine Definition
enthalten, welche die Benutzung von ";" und "|" in Tags definiert.
Dort ist lediglich definiert key=value.

Taginfo und der iD-Editor interpretieren alles vor dem letzten "=" als
Key und alles danach als Value.

1) Sind die 115 korrekt?
2) Wenn ja, wo ist das beschrieben?
3) Ist es ein Bug in taginfo und iD-Editor?

Tobias

Liste der Anzahl "Contains possibly problematic characters" je Bundesland
BB: 116
https://taginfo.geofabrik.de/europe:germany:brandenburg/reports/characters_in_keys
BE: 114
https://taginfo.geofabrik.de/europe:germany:berlin/reports/characters_in_keys
BW: 126
https://taginfo.geofabrik.de/europe:germany:baden-wuerttemberg/reports/characters_in_keys
BY: 121
https://taginfo.geofabrik.de/europe:germany:bayern/reports/characters_in_keys
HB: 114
https://taginfo.geofabrik.de/europe:germany:bremen/reports/characters_in_keys
HE: 118
https://taginfo.geofabrik.de/europe:germany:hessen/reports/characters_in_keys
HH: 115
https://taginfo.geofabrik.de/europe:germany:hamburg/reports/characters_in_keys
MV: 129
https://taginfo.geofabrik.de/europe:germany:mecklenburg-vorpommern/reports/characters_in_keys
NI: 123
https://taginfo.geofabrik.de/europe:germany:niedersachsen/reports/characters_in_keys
NW: 166
https://taginfo.geofabrik.de/europe:germany:nordrhein-westfalen/reports/characters_in_keys
RP: 167
https://taginfo.geofabrik.de/europe:germany:rheinland-pfalz/reports/characters_in_keys
SH: 127
https://taginfo.geofabrik.de/europe:germany:schleswig-holstein/reports/characters_in_keys
SL: 122
https://taginfo.geofabrik.de/europe:germany:saarland/reports/characters_in_keys
SN: 117
https://taginfo.geofabrik.de/europe:germany:sachsen/reports/characters_in_keys
ST: 115
https://taginfo.geofabrik.de/europe:germany:sachsen-anhalt/reports/characters_in_keys
TH: 117
https://taginfo.geofabrik.de/europe:germany:thueringen/reports/characters_in_keys

Liste der 125 Tags in https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/8131479
def:highway=*&motorroad=yes;bicycle=no
def:highway=*&motorroad=yes;foot=no
def:highway=*&motorroad=yes;goods=yes
def:highway=*&motorroad=yes;hgv=yes
def:highway=*&motorroad=yes;horse=no
def:highway=*&motorroad=yes;mofa=no
def:highway=*&motorroad=yes;moped=no
def:highway=*&motorroad=yes;motorcar=yes
def:highway=*&motorroad=yes;motorcycle=yes
def:highway=*&motorroad=yes;psv=yes
def:highway=bridleway;bicycle=no
def:highway=bridleway;foot=no
def:highway=bridleway;goods=no
def:highway=bridleway;hgv=no
def:highway=bridleway;horse=designated
def:highway=bridleway;mofa=no
def:highway=bridleway;moped=no
def:highway=bridleway;motorcar=no
def:highway=bridleway;motorcycle=no
def:highway=bridleway;psv=no
def:highway=cycleway&zone:traffic=rural;mofa=yes
def:highway=cycleway&zone:traffic=urban;mofa=no
def:highway=cycleway;bicycle=designated
def:highway=cycleway;foot=no
def:highway=cycleway;goods=no
def:highway=cycleway;hgv=no
def:highway=cycleway;horse=no
def:highway=cycleway;moped=no
def:highway=cycleway;motorcar=no
def:highway=cycleway;motorcycle=no
def:highway=cycleway;psv=no
def:highway=footway|highway=pedestrian;bicycle=dismount
def:highway=footway|highway=pedestrian;foot=designated
def:highway=footway|highway=pedestrian;goods=no
def:highway=footway|highway=pedestrian;hgv=no
def:highway=footway|highway=pedestrian;horse=no
def:highway=footway|highway=pedestrian;mofa=no
def:highway=footway|highway=pedestrian;moped=no
def:highway=footway|highway=pedestrian;motorcar=no
def:highway=footway|highway=pedestrian;motorcycle=no
def:highway=footway|highway=pedestrian;psv=no
def:highway=living_street;maxspeed=walk
def:highway=motorroad;maxspeed:hgv=80
def:highway=motorroad;maxspeed:tourist_bus=100
def:highway=motorway;access:bicycle=no
def:highway=motorway;access:foot=no
def:highway=motorway;access:moped=no
def:highway=motorway;bicycle=no
def:highway=motorway;foot=no
def:highway=motorway;goods=yes
def:highway=motorway;hgv=yes
def:highway=motorway;horse=no
def:highway=motorway;lanes=2
def:highway=motorway;maxspeed=none
def:highway=motorway;maxspeed:advisory=130
def:highway=motorway;maxspeed:hgv=80
def:highway=motorway;maxspeed:tourist_bus=100
def:highway=motorway;mofa=no
def:highway=motorway;moped=no
def:highway=motorway;motorcar=yes
def:highway=motorway;motorcycle=yes
def:highway=motorway;oneway=yes
def:highway=motorway;psv=yes
def:highway=path&zone:traffic=rural;mofa=yes
def:highway=path&zone:traffic=urban;mofa=no
def:highway=path;bicycle=yes
def:highway=path;foot=yes
def:highway=path;goods=no
def:highway=path;hgv=no
def:highway=path;horse=yes
def:highway=path;moped=no
def:highway=path;motorcar=no
def:highway=path;motorcycle=no
def:highway=path;psv=no
def:highway=primary|highway=secondary|highway=tertiary;maxspeed=rural
def:highway=residential;maxspeed=urban
def:highway=service;bicycle=yes
def:highway=service;foot=yes
def:highway=service;goods=yes
def:highway=service;hgv=yes
def:highway=service;horse=yes
def:highway=service;mofa=yes
def:highway=service;moped=yes
def:highway=service;motorcar=yes
def:highway=service;motorcycle=yes
def:highway=service;psv=yes
def:highway=track;bicycle=yes
def:highway=track;foot=yes
def:highway=track;goods=destination
def:highway=track;hgv=destination
def:highway=track;horse=yes
def:highway=track;mofa=destination
def:highway=track;moped=destination
def:highway=track;motorcar=destination
def:highway=track;motorcycle=destination
def:highway=track;psv=destination
def:highway=trunk|highway=primary|highway=secondary|highway=tertiary|highway=unclassified|highway=residential|highway=living_street|highway=road;bicycle=yes
def:highway=trunk|highway=primary|highway=secondary|highway=tertiary|highway=unclassified|highway=residential|highway=living_street|highway=road;foot=yes
def:highway=trunk|highway=primary|highway=secondary|highway=tertiary|highway=unclassified|highway=residential|highway=living_street|highway=road;goods=yes
def:highway=trunk|highway=primary|highway=secondary|highway=tertiary|highway=unclassified|highway=residential|highway=living_street|highway=road;hgv=yes
def:highway=trunk|highway=primary|highway=secondary|highway=tertiary|highway=unclassified|highway=residential|highway=living_street|highway=road;horse=yes
def:highway=trunk|highway=primary|highway=secondary|highway=tertiary|highway=unclassified|highway=residential|highway=living_street|highway=road;mofa=yes
def:highway=trunk|highway=primary|highway=secondary|highway=tertiary|highway=unclassified|highway=residential|highway=living_street|highway=road;moped=yes
def:highway=trunk|highway=primary|highway=secondary|highway=tertiary|highway=unclassified|highway=residential|highway=living_street|highway=road;motorcar=yes
def:highway=trunk|highway=primary|highway=secondary|highway=tertiary|highway=unclassified|highway=residential|highway=living_street|highway=road;motorcycle=yes
def:highway=trunk|highway=primary|highway=secondary|highway=tertiary|highway=unclassified|highway=residential|highway=living_street|highway=road;psv=yes
def:maxspeed:bicycle=none
def:rural;maxspeed=100
def:urban;maxspeed=50
def:zone:traffic=DE:rural;maxspeed=100
def:zone:traffic=DE:rural;maxspeed:hgv=60
def:zone:traffic=DE:urban;maxspeed=50
def:zone:traffic=rural;maxspeed=100
def:zone:traffic=rural;maxspeed:hgv=60
def:zone:traffic=urban;maxspeed=50
description=Standardwerte für Deutschland gemäß der Straßenverkehrsordnung
description:de=Standardwerte für Deutschland gemäß der Straßenverkehrsordnung
description:en=Germany highway default values according to the Highway Code
description:fr=Valeurs standard pour l'Allemagne selon le code de la route
name=Deutschland, StVO
name:de=Deutschland, StVO
name:en=Germany, highway default values
name:fr=Allemagne, valeurs par défaut de l'autoroute
note=einige Einträge aus
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Maxspeed#Germany
bezüglich Fahrräder fehlen noch, ebenso
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions#Germany
type=defaults

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